THE PODCAST IS ENTERING A NEW CHAPTER!
The Podcast In The Rough is a place for honest conversations about the parts of life that don't always make it into the polished version of the story.
Childhood. Trauma. Healing. Therapy. Family. Marriage. Parenting. Money. Work. Entrepreneurship. Ambition. Success. Failure. Starting over.
Some episodes are personal reflections.
Some are conversations with guests.
Some are about something that happened yesterday.
Some are about something that happened decades ago.
The common thread is simple:
We're talking about the things that shape us.
Not from a place of having all the answers.
From the middle of actually living it.
There was a time when I believed success meant access.
The rooms. The productions. The brands. The stages.
For nearly two decades, I worked inside that world as a filmmaker, cinematographer and creative strategist, helping build stories, campaigns, productions and creative projects for entrepreneurs, major brands and high-level creative environments.
I chased mastery. I chased opportunity. I chased the feeling that if I worked hard enough, eventually I would arrive somewhere meaningful.
And for a while, it looked like I had.
Then I started seeing what success could hide.
Exhaustion behind performance.
Creativity beneath pressure.
Identity underneath achievement.
I watched ambition turn into survival.
And eventually, I found myself there too.
Burned out. Disconnected. Carrying things I had never really dealt with.
Some of those things started in childhood. Some followed me into adulthood. Some showed up in my work, my relationships, and the way I understood success.
For a long time, I thought I had moved past them.
Then I learned that moving forward and actually healing aren't always the same thing.
Therapy became part of that process.
So did EMDR. Writing. Difficult conversations. And admitting that some things I thought were behind me were still very much a part of me.
I'm still in that process.
And that's important.
Because this podcast isn't built around the idea that I've figured everything out.
It's built around being honest while we're still figuring it out.
The name comes from the story of Aladdin entering the cave looking for treasure.
For me, the cave represents the years spent chasing success, surviving experiences, burying things, building things and trying to become someone.
I went into the cave looking for success.
I came out carrying stories.
The microphone became the lamp.
Not because it gives me magical answers.
Because it gives me somewhere to put the stories.
Some episodes are reflections. Some are conversations. Some are questions I've carried for years.
And sometimes someone else's story makes me stop and think:
Maybe I'm not the only one.
That's what The Podcast In The Rough is about.
Not self-help.
Not pretending.
Not having all the answers.
Just real stories, honest questions and conversations from inside the rough.
You're welcome here.
I'm Zebulon Thomas.
I'm a filmmaker, cinematographer, author, creative strategist, entrepreneur, husband, father and the host of The Podcast In The Rough.
For nearly two decades, I've worked behind the scenes in commercial production, storytelling, podcasting and creative development, helping shape projects connected to entrepreneurs, major brands, large productions and high-level creative environments.
For a long time, I believed success was the destination.
I chased the opportunities people dream about.
I built for other people while trying to build something meaningful for myself.
I learned how to perform, produce, deliver and keep moving.
What took longer to learn was how to stop.
Eventually, the pursuit came with a cost.
Burnout. Pressure. Identity loss. Emotional exhaustion.
And the strange feeling of helping create extraordinary things while becoming increasingly disconnected from yourself.
Then life started asking different questions:
What did I actually want?
What was I carrying?
What parts of my childhood were still showing up in adulthood?
What did I want my kids to learn from me?
What kind of husband did I want to be?
What does success mean when nobody is watching?
Therapy became part of that process.
So did EMDR.
So did writing.
So did having difficult conversations.
So did admitting that some things I thought I had moved past were still very much a part of me.
I'm still in that process.
That's important.
Because The Podcast In The Rough isn't built around the idea that I've arrived somewhere.
It's built around the idea that there is value in talking honestly while we're still on the way.
This podcast is where I share stories, reflections, conversations and questions pulled from both the beauty and the wreckage of that journey.
Sometimes the conversations are about trauma.
Sometimes they're about business, money, parenting or marriage.
Sometimes they're about something that happened on an ordinary Tuesday that made me stop and think.
The subject may change. The human experience underneath it doesn't.
I'm not here to tell you what to do.
I'm here to tell you what happened to me, ask questions, listen to other people's stories and have conversations that hopefully make you feel a little less alone.
That's the show.