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The Podcast In The Rough
The Podcast In The Rough is a collection of real moments. Some become conversations. Some become stories. Some become questions. Some become things I can't stop thinking about after the microphone is turned off. I don't want every episode to sound the same, and I don't want every guest to answer the same questions. I don't want every conversation to arrive at a lesson, a takeaway, or some perfectly packaged conclusion.
I want to see what happens when two people actually talk. A guest might tell me something I've never heard before. I might remember something I'd forgotten. A question might send the conversation somewhere neither of us expected. Someone might laugh at something that wasn't supposed to be funny. Something might get quiet. A story might open another story. And sometimes the best part of an episode isn't the answer. It's the moment when someone says something and you realize you've felt that too.
This isn't a podcast about having life figured out. It's a podcast about being alive while we're figuring it out.
The Story Behind The Rough
There was a time when I thought I was going into the cave to find success. The rooms, the brands, the productions, the opportunities, and all the things that make you feel like you're finally getting somewhere. For nearly two decades, I worked toward them. I built things, chased things, learned things, and became very good at keeping moving. And eventually I realized you can spend your entire life becoming successful at a life you haven't stopped to ask yourself whether you actually want.
The cave became something else. It became childhood. It became trauma, survival, the things I buried because there wasn't time to deal with them, burnout, identity, family, fatherhood, marriage, therapy, EMDR, failure, money, ambition, and all the strange things that happen when the version of yourself you built starts rubbing against the person you actually are. I went into the cave looking for success. I came out carrying stories.
That's where the microphone came in. The microphone became the lamp — not because it gives me magical answers, but because it gives me somewhere to shine a light. So now I'm collecting moments, conversations with people who have lived something, questions that won't leave me alone, stories I didn't know I needed to hear, and pieces of my own life that I'm still trying to understand. That's The Podcast In The Rough. A record of what happens when we stop pretending the polished version is the whole story.
About The Host
WHO I AM
I'm Zebulon. I've spent nearly twenty years making things. I know how to build a production, tell a story, solve a problem, and make something look finished. What I'm learning now is how to leave some things unfinished long enough to discover what they actually are. That's a big part of this podcast.
I'm a filmmaker, cinematographer, creative strategist, entrepreneur, husband, father, author, and someone who has spent a lot of time trying to understand what success was supposed to feel like. I've also spent time in therapy trying to understand the things success couldn't fix — the childhood stuff, the pressure, the patterns, the things I carried into marriage, the things I carried into fatherhood, and the things I didn't realize I was carrying at all.
So I'm not showing up here as the person with the answers. I'm showing up with a microphone and a willingness to keep looking. Sometimes I'll bring you into something I'm thinking about. Sometimes I'll bring someone into the room because I want to understand their story. Sometimes we'll disagree. Sometimes we'll laugh. Sometimes the conversation will get uncomfortable. Sometimes we'll discover something neither of us expected. That's the point.
WHAT WE KEEP COMING BACK TO
I don't want to put life into neat boxes because real life doesn't stay in them. A conversation about money can become a conversation about childhood. Parenting can become identity. Success can become fear. Marriage can become the person you were before you ever met your partner.
There are themes we keep coming back to — The Rough, Life, Success, and Questions — but they're really just starting points. The interesting part is what happens when they collide. The thing you're struggling with at work might have nothing to do with work. The thing you're trying to understand about your marriage might have started much earlier.
And then there are The Conversations themselves. Sometimes it's just me. Sometimes someone else walks into the room with an entirely different story. We start somewhere, follow the thread, and see where it takes us. I don't always know what the conversation is going to become until we're in it.
That's the point.
No formulas. No perfect answers. Just people, stories, questions, and whatever we discover when we sit down and actually talk.
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